The Zeitgeist

Van Jones...truther who claimed on 9/12 that America deserved it...

2009-09-08T08:00:00.000-07:00

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/09/07/van-jones-9-11-attacks-not-just-truther-deserver

2009-08-14T18:36:00.001-07:00

Suckers.

2009-08-01T21:40:00.000-07:00

2009-04-18T15:09:00.000-07:00

Has it been a year allready?

Gee...time flies when your in a comma...

Well now the election has been over for a while...and the new push for the truthers is to try and get Obama to re-open the 9/11 investigations...

Personally...I'd like that very much... better to air the stuff out and throw some water on these idiots....And there are still some unanswered questions regarding the squelching of FBI investigations during the 90's that should come out...

Crybaby Hollywood truther goes "Postal"...

2008-05-18T17:16:00.001-07:00

I have to thank the DUmmies for the heads up on this...I get my best leads from Democrat truther loons.

http://www.postal-the-movie.com/index.htm
To all of you writing now about me and the fact that POSTAL is not getting screens.
its okay ..its fun kicking a guy nonstop who is on the ground
you are all not getting it that i'm the guy who made it against the big hollywood system and you are all only busy to destroy me and finish me up
and then you YOU WON WHAT ? the attention of the studios, michael bay .. ?????
if you damage me you feel closer to Hollywood ? what is your game plan?
you want only movies like JUMPER , SPEED RACER , WHAT HAPPENDS IN VEGAS ...? then keep going and your dreams will be fullfilled. POSTAL makes some very important points ..but you dont wanna see that .... : that Bush used the SEPTEMBER 11 to start a war against a country what had nothing to do with Bin Laden etc.... but this all doesnt matter because you are all busy to THINK that INDIANA JONES or NARNIA are important movies ... but in real they are empty shells of an industry what wants to make money and what wants to keep you looking "escape movies" with nothing in it. in between they are putting some CONTROVERSIAL movies to show that they can do also IMPORTANT movies ...but also this movies are not really critical....they only supporting the system and not showing the big picture. and POSTAL shows the BIG PICTURE ...it nails the absurd situation with all the stupid religions, races and nations we are living in. POSTAL is not accepting bullshit politics. POSTAL has not the opinion that Bush made mistakes - POSTAL has the opinion that it is a scandal that BUSH is not in jail. What happened in America in the last 7 years is the biggest joke since Columbus stepped on that land.
but instead of seeing the courage i had in doing that movie against everybody who tried to stop me - you are sitting on your desks and you are working on stories about me ....and my image as the worst director on earth...and you fullfill what your editor wants from you in regards of uwe boll ...or you fullfill what you think makes you a cooler guy in the internet ...and you are not getting it that you are only interested in movies like IRON MAN or HULK or KUNG FU PANDA or the MUMMY 3 because the studios spending 60 mio. $ in advertising to make you interested in NON INTERESTING movies. how many times you wanna keep going in movies only because the TRAILER was so cool and the CGI was so great ?thanks for reading this

Uwe Boll
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WOW....he single handidly turned a 60 million dollar investment dumped into In the "Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale" into a 4.5 million return...
Now he's crying that theaters wont carry his "bush let it happen" screed on 1500 screens nation wide?
A few notes:
His posting style?.....typical truther...rambles intermixed with bad syntax and alot of capitols thrown in for important words...
Columbus never set foot in "America"...he stopped in the Caribbean...
American forces didn't attack Iraq because of 9/11 (though we should have over WTC1)...American forces attacked and deposed the Taliban because of 9/11.
Ewww indeed....

The freak of Past weeks...

2008-05-18T01:03:00.000-07:00

Boy...look what happend when I quit paying attention...

This is too good not to post:

"Comment moderation has been enabled. All comments must be approved by the blog author."

If you are so right, why restrict the comments? I find it very telling that even you admit you are on the opposite as the truthers....opposite side of the truth...you said it.If the "truthers" are so crazy, so wacko, why do you need an entire blog to "fight" them? If their ideas are so out there, the truth will show this.Your own words and actions give away your true motives.We know that:1. You have an issue allowing others to express an opposing view, so you must be for the restriction of free speech, what kind of political doctrine would that point to?2. On your own homepage you belittle a guy who shares the "truther" beliefs, and is a veteran of an Iraq war...huh? You pay no heed to the fact that he is a real insider, who has information civilians wouldn't. You are not a 5 year old, so I know that thought must have crossed your mind, yet you still choose to insult and belittle. This shows that you actively trying to distort info and insult and discredit those you DON'T EVEN KNOW for your own agenda...again, what kind of political doctrine would that point to?You are too obvious, and I for one am gonna smoke you out.-

A true American patriot

My reply:

Smoke me out?

Put down the bong dude....

You are allready smoked out.

The only reason your words werent posted for all to see...was that I quit paying attention to your crap ages ago...

Sorry I missed this...

I might even make you the new "freak of past weeks"..

My my my...what a familiar posting style..wild eyed capitals and everything.
Three guesses who this was...and the first two dont count...
Notice the term "we" is used...telling...
Plus information only a direct observer would know..
How many personalities did you have truth_only?

Just when you think it's safe to go to work...

2008-05-18T00:47:00.001-07:00

These freaks are everywhere…

Just today..I was in a National Electric Code update class…

My coworker brought up the subject over lunch..as people had talked about it during one of his other classes(he thought it was crap…good boy)…..

I informed him of my information etc etc……

And upon returning from the lunch break?…

I was greated with none other than “loose change” playing on the overhead…

I almost came unglued…

I challenged every man in the room very loudly….

“Is there a single person here that believes the OUR Govt killed over 3000 Americans on 9/11!”
Silence…and a lot of shoe staring…

I said “SHAME…shame on you all for even letting this bullcrap be put on…”

I had to leave the room and have a smoke I was shaking so much with anger(I’m still livid)…If I didnt need the update to maintian my license..I would have left..

Needless to say…when I returned, the room was silent and the class was back on topic…

A couple guys even thanked me after the class for speaking up (my first thought was why didnt YOU)…but I digress..

Make no mistake…while most of them dropped off after the midterms when the GOP didnt “steal” congress, and Bush didnt “declare martial law” to put thousands in “prison camps”….

There are still those out there infected by this germ…BDS

I see brain dead "truthers"...

A new day dawns...long see...no time...

2008-05-14T21:22:00.001-07:00

Not sure if anyone has been stopping by....been over a year since I last posted...

Didnt see much need after the mid terms.....when GW didnt declare martial law and put everyone in prison camps.....it took the wind out of alot of truthers....they dropped like flies....

Nutscape is now propeller (as in on top of a beenie) and while the diehard truther freaks still post articles...they dont get any replies....

They have lost neutral groud were they can recruit....and as the multitude of doomsday predicitons failed to appear....people stopped paying attention...

I did note that many of the conservative posters have all been banned long ago...no big shock there.....Liberals cant tolerate diversity of opinion....no matter what they claim....

It's dead Jim.....

I'm sure the truthers have found a welcome home on democratic underground, the daily Kos, and the huff and puff post..

They are preaching to the eager moonbat choir...the obamites and clintoids...

So now we have a new focus....

The future of our great nation...and what it means if we lose our way...

While I'm never sorry I voted for GW (three times even) due to his strong unwavering execution of war on the terrorist scum...many of his domestic policies boggle the logical mind...

And what the GOP has offered up as a "conservative" has gone beyond the pale.....I can no longer support a party becuase it's "less" liberal that the far left...

A good and just man will shoot a lame horse...it's merciful.

The horse has gone lame....time to shoot it..no matter how much it hurts.

I will try and post regularly now as the 2008 election approaches....but any hope of a conservative in this cycle is long past...that ship has sailed...

Instaed I will look forward to the next midterms and presidential cycle...

I will introduce you to a truely new and conservative politcal party...not a party of RINO's

That doesnt mean we cant support good and just republicans or even the one or two conservative democrats left..but the GOP is no longer a "party" of conservatives....they are only less liberal than the Democrats...

What is this new party?

Libertarians?

No...although there are some good and just men there...it is riddled with radicals and isolationists.....

Constitution Party?

No...The new party founder say's it better than I could...I offer this quote:

"The most obvious deviation with the Constitution Party is in our view on the war against the islamists. Everything I’ve read lately from the CP seems to not comprehend the need we had to topple Saddam and establish an allied nation in the wake. They are scarcely different than the libertarian party in this regard.
Other differences include the fact that the CP claims to be a Biblically based party. We certainly give praise and thanksgiving to God here, but we do not pretend that the constitution was primarily a Biblically based document. While certainly the founders were mostly men of great faith, the influences for the document they created had numerous sources, and the structure of our government was not Biblically derived.
In matters of taxation, the CP wants to return to a excise taxes and tariffs. We do not.
We are also more aggressive in our call to descope the federal government leviathan.
Those are a few of the issues that separate us."

Ron Paul?

Oh HELL no...his foriegn policy alone is national suicide....

So what is this new party?

Where is this place where I have found kindred spirits free from the associations of supremisists and anti-semites?

Who is this party that has based it's beliefs on liberty and the original intent our our nations founding?

Follow this link and find out....judge for yourself.

Conservative is...as conservative does....

http://falconparty.com/

Back in Black....

2007-03-24T09:07:00.000-07:00

Sorry for the obvious delay boys and girls....my laptop blew up....Grrrr

So where were we before we were so rudly interupted?

Ah yes...The drop off in truther activity on nutscape after the midterms...there was also a rash of bannings concerning raving lunatics....I had kinda assumed that to be the last gasp...I had checked a few times on 911 tagged stories...and didnt see much movment in that front...

http://www.netscape.com/tag/911

But...as I suspected....truthers shift tags everyonce and a while in an effort to get there cultish propaganda onto the front page in an effort to gain new recruits...

http://www.netscape.com/tag/911+truth

Still at it I see...

Curious....although a few peeps were banned.....these new peeps seem to have the same style of posting this crap, to wit:

Idiot #1:

Hey...check out this new evidence I found on *whatever* tube....*link provided*

Idiot #2:

Hey...that's very good find there....but you should really see "blah blah blah"....*link provided*...

I mean really.....you guys think a third grader cant see through this stuff?

Obviously...the sock puppets are alive and well.....and nutscape continues to allow this stuff to be posted through inaction and refusal to block the offending websites...

I did recently get one hate site blocked after rubbing a navigators nose into the fact that the site in question was a white supremacist website....but that is slim consolation to the fact that nutscape is riddled with anti-semites....er...sorry....anti-zionists (they think there is some kind of distinction *shrug*)..who continue to peddle their hatespeech against jews and the jewish state of Isreal....all the while denying that this is in turn support for terrorists who target women and children for death...

My how proud the anti-victory lobby must be of their little Stalin youth....

wtctruther...we hardly knew ye...

2007-02-03T21:43:00.000-08:00

But...chances are ...we knew ye by another name allready...

Yes my friends...another truther freak bit the nutscape dust...and I hardly noticed...

I wager he's back allready...

Please forgive the lack of updates.....been busy bashing barking moonbats...racing cars...and getting into the business of a new year...

I promise a flurry of comming posts...just too much stuff not to post about it..

Be well....

Happy New year!

2007-01-02T22:58:00.000-08:00

And indeed it is...

I got word that "truth_only" was banned....*snicker*

Time keeps on slippin...

2006-12-27T21:57:00.000-08:00

Merry Christmass!.....

Sorry for the lack of updates...I needed a break from the bullcrap on nutscape...

I noticed the failure of the GOP to steal the midterms and the subsequent failure of Bush to declare martial law ,coupled with the failure of the Govt to conduct a false flag terror event before the end of november, really took the wind out of the "ship of freak" sails....accept for a few diehard cultists....the casual fools dropped out...

Guess crow dont taste that well...they didnt wish to be served anymore...

Happy holidays....dont drink and drive....you might spill your drink.....

Be well!

Even a leftwing group "gets it"...

2006-11-18T18:41:00.001-08:00

Here's a group that sees the "truth" movement (at least parts of it) for what it is....

A cult....

http://www.911cultwatch.org.uk/

Kudos to them.....well worth a read...

The unbearable likeness of being...other posters:

2006-11-16T16:23:00.000-08:00

One of the problems with nutscape....is the ability for people to have multiple log ins...

This allows truthers to game the system through a process known as "sock puppet voting"

IE:...they post an "article" under one log in....then quicky use other log ins to bump whatever they post to the top of the channel...and thus give it the appearance of credibilty...

I previously busted one such truther using at least two log ins....that truther had been rather quiet as of late...but was very active voting and posting stuff...but no comments...

So...me...being ..well...me...I was curious to see if I could find the new log in this person was using to comment...

I posted this last night after seeing that this poster had voted on this truther spun article:

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006/11/14/cia-finally-acknowledges-existence-of-presidential-order/#comments

2006-11-15 20:11:35 Zeitgeist
Hey truth_only....who's your new sock puppet?
I notice you havent commented on anything for a while...but you are still voting...
Hmmm...
I bet I can find you within two days....
LMAO....amatuer..

Well...It didnt even take two days...

Here's a post from RomoveBushnow( one of the first log ins I found)

2006-07-27 18:13:03 RemoveBushNow
It's a shame you really have no idea what your talking about!!!
Would have been nice to see something of substance, but what can I expect from someone who does not investigate and look at the FACTS!
You base ALL your information on "Loose Change" it looks like! Then you try to lump EVERYONE who does not think like you as kooks! Loose Change is not perfect and contains many flaws, but the overall information is "relatively" in tact.
Unless you can put together a film that is COMPLETELY error free, then you really have no room to put them down.
Also, if the Government went around "killing" everyone that opposed them then HALF the people in this country would be killed. Letting people put out information gives people like you more belief in the OV and makes you follow the governments line much more, so why would they want to stop that? They can put out some shotty video of OBL and you'll pound on the CT's that this is proof that the government knows what they are talking about.

Here's a post from truth_only:

2006-10-23 15:34:35 truth_only
"Study the construction of the Towers; they were designed to withstand a small plane crash. High temperature will weaken steel; the weight of the above floors caused the weakened structure to collapse upon itself causing a chain reaction. It's very simple."
Sorry!!!!! They were designed to withstand a FULLY LOADED 707, which is actually larger than a 757. It holds more fuel and can go 600MPH versus just 500MPH.
"If it was a missle that hit the Pentagon, then where is flight 77 and the people that were on board?"
That's a red herring question! First the evidence needs to be brought forth, then the pursuit of questions like that can be answered....
Also, please show me where I say that a missle hit the pentagon???? A plane did hit the pentagon, but not flight 77! Where are BOTH engines????? Only ONE was found! Your telling me that the hardest substance known to man, Titanium, jsut evaportized? PLEASE!

And here is the new log in.....busted today:

2006-11-15 23:53:40 Capitaine Danjou
Something this site forgets to mention:
Not just for the US, but all western nations:
WHO ALLOWED MASS ISLAMIC IMMIGRATION TO OUR COUNTRIES??
OUR GOVERNMENTS, THAT'S WHO. AND NOT JUST ONE PARTY, ALL THE PARTIES.
Without masses of them living amongst us, we could not be frightened into giving up our freedoms. Even now, our governments are continuing to let them flood in and under the cry of "multi-culture", if we complain, we are racist bigots.
This is an orchestrated event, maybe one or two nations maybe stupid enough to do it, BUT EVERY WESTERN NATION????
And any political movement that trys to stop it are assassinated by the media.
Most can not (or don't want to) believe this is possible. It means their whole world and beliefs are false.
The House of Rothschild is THE subject to research because in doing so you find direct links to control of the governments, finance, religion, media, secret societies and world events.

If this isnt the same person....I'll be a truther...

LMAO...here's a lesson boys and girls...

Trying to mimic being separate people is EXTREMELY difficult...even for those who practice...

You can change your name...you can change how you type...but you cant change they way you think, use vocabulary, use syntax,use grammer, or how you use common phrases...

Notice the use of punctuation...the switching to capitals for emphesis

Most people type the way they talk...I often pause when speaking....even though I'm still on the same trian of thought....and so...that is they way I type...

This person has tried to disguise the use of multiple log ins....but in a stressful situation...they reverted once again to the way they talk and think as a default mode...

I've been a forum moderator on a popular internet gaming site for over 6 years...and I've seen the best...in all these years...I only know of one person who can do this and pull it off....and I still busted him...(in private, because he's cool)...

I'm certain this person has even more registered log ins ,either as yet un-used, or never used to comment...only to vote or post truther articles...

Let that be a lesson to you who-ever-you-are this week....dont frak with the Zeitgeist.

**Update**

I think I just stumbled upon another log in of this person.....you be the judge...dont look at the content of the post itself...look for the pattern noted above...

2006-09-01 18:46:57 Edinbug
You guys think THAT is wild!
Listen to this! Did you know that it WASN'T JUST Bill Screwing Monica? Hillary used to JOIN IN! mmmmm. scuse me, I'm gettin a mental picture. uh uh uh uh.
OKAYTHEN!
So where was I.
Oh Yeah. One time ""After the DEED"", Bill, Hillary, AND Monica went over to Vince Foster's house, and they each took turns strangling him. Then they all joined in together. But Vince wouldn't die.
""I CAN"T let you kill me! You'll just play into the hands of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!!""
Hillary reportedly said - HA! There's no Right Wing Conspiracy. Only NUTCASES fall for conspiracy theories!
Then it got boring because they all sat around the kitchen table discussing the relative merits of conspiracy theorists and weather they were schizophrenic or bi-polar.
But MONICA started to doze! They shook her awake, strangled Vince Foster and then drove him out to a field.
-
The next day it was announced that the criminal, Oliver North was a FOX TV personality.
-
COINCIDENCE????

Freak of the week:

2006-11-15T22:39:00.000-08:00

Sometimes you run across some so freaky...they deserve dishonorable mention....

The Nutscape freak this week?

BurningFIRE

http://www.netscape.com/member/burningfire/

Eh.....big deal right?...Not much of a Bio....one "friend'....just your average freak...

That's pretty much what I thought....until he posted his homepage

http://www.worldwidewarriors.org/burning_fire.htm

Oh man.....shew!

We got Bush family runs drug cartel....freemasonry expose'....illuminatti.....Zionists

Noah's ark....Bohemian grove....it just goes on and on...including a slew of links from

*drum roll please*

Alex Jones web ring

And my personal favorite....Vatican assassins.....Woot...who doesnt love those hitmen for Jesus!

After seeing all that.....I'm shocked I didnt find UFO,bigfoot, and Atlantis stuff as well...

Oh...then there is this gem when you find the "back to home" link

http://www.worldwidewarriors.org/index.html

"The house of YAH"

Pretty freaky right?.....

Nope.....none of that seems quite freaky enough for dishonorable mention....

Wait!...there's more!

What is REALLY freaky to me is....

I have it on good authority that this guy is a desert storm veteran....

NOW how much would you freak?

I can only hope he's locked away in a VA nutward and someone slipped him a dial up connection.....

Cuz if this freak is running the streets.....well....you get the picture....

It's only a matter of time and place till he pops a gasket and goes postal....

This should also serve as a reminder that one should NEVER give out or post personal information on the world wide web unless the person you are sharing it with is trusted...and even then...such information should be brief and devoid of your exact location....

This guy makes Alex Jones look like your average scam artist (which he is BTW)...

Now that is enough freak even for me boys and girls... if this guy isnt on an FBI watch list...he should be...

Remember to keep your arms and legs attached at all times...

Enjoy the ride...

Come again...

Zeitgeist

**update: BurningFIRE is outa there!**

A screw loose change reader NAILS it cold...

2006-11-15T20:37:00.000-08:00

Minadin said... Won't work, most advertisers on those shows are lunatics themselves. Either that or sane people marketing to lunatics.According to Scott Adams's book, The Dilbert Principle:" . . . everybody knows that the general population breaks down this way:
60% People who don't need your product
30% People who have no money
5% People who are nuts
5% People who will buy any damn thing
That leaves a neat ten percent of the population who can be considered likely customers for your product, and that's more than enough to support a business plan. If somebody questions your market projections, simply point out that your target market is "People who are nuts" and "People who will buy any damn thing." Nobody is going to tell you that there aren't enough of those people to go around."I guess that's about asclose as I can get to explaining why some of these nutty media outlets have advertisers.
BINGO!...we have a winner...put your markers down...
This in itself is rather harmless...
The chilling fact is the many hate groups also run the current of the truther movement....
When Johny Jihad seeks to recruit a lilly white...it will undoubtably be a truther...
The only commonality these ...er...I'll say it...FREAKS...have..is an underlying hatred of Bush...
Then after induction with a few "truth" videos...this easily moves into hatred of the Govt in general..
After a short time...this expands into hatred of the puppet masters...the "globalist bankers"...aka...the jews...
And then plainly to their fellow citizens who mock or doubt them...*poof*...instant Mcveigh...Just add explosives...
THAT is the real danger my friends...
Ever vigilant.
Zeitgeist

Lead Admin give truther puppeteers the smack down!

2006-11-15T17:39:00.000-08:00

http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/11/15/breaking-news-evidence-proves-911-was-an-inside-job/

This story has been closed after we discovered several sock puppets / people with multiple accounts voting on it to game the system.

WELL DONE CK!!!!!
Now...how about you ban those people with a perma ban on their IP addy...

Oh where, oh where have the truthers gone?

2006-11-13T22:45:00.000-08:00

I notice that except for a few diehards....it seems that quite a few truthers dropped off the face of nutscape....

I guess the failure of the GOP to "steal" the mid terms kinda took the wind out of their sails...

aw well...they can allways hope for another terror attack so they can blame the govt again...

I also note a marked rise in anti-semitic comments concerning Isreal...

I'm shocked......not...

As if nutscape wasnt a big enough playground for whack jobs...

2006-11-11T23:47:00.000-08:00

Yeah boys and girls...there a new place for truthers to hang out...meet other nutjobs....and freely post their crap..

http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Lets see...what are the current topics?

New Pages
Add a New Page
9/11 Inside Job
Election Fraud
Iraq War
New World Order (One World Government)
The Federal Reserve
Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
Neo-Conservatives - Neo-Cons
Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA)
Gun Control
Net Neutrality
Militarization of Police
Fluoride - Fluoridation of Water
Media Ownership in America
Council on Foreign Relations
United Nations
War on Drugs
Trilateral Commission
Digital Rights Management (DRM)
Loss of Right To Travel
Illegal Immigration (Invasion)
North American Union (www.spp.gov)
Loss of Habeas Corpus
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Illuminati
Freemasonry

Wow....some real free thinking going on there...a whole cornhole copia of intelligence.

TED RALL....truther in the media....democratic nutcase...

2006-11-09T16:37:00.000-08:00

Here we have the best of the truther apocolypse theories all rolled into one article.....and it's carried on YAHOO (big shock)...

OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE HAS JUST BEGUNWed Nov 8, 2:41 PM ET
Like Cornered Rats, GOP Losers More Dangerous Than Ever

NEW YORK--"My fellow Americans," assured incoming president Gerald Ford hours after the Watergate scandals forced
Richard Nixon' to resign, "our long national nightmare is over."
I'm tempted, in the aftermath of the widest and most stunning electoral repudiation of Republicanism since Watergate, to mark the Democratic recapture of governorships, the House of Representatives (and probably the Senate) as the beginning of the end of Bush's fascism lite, and thus a long overdue vindication of what I've been saying about him since his December 2000 coup d'état.
Back in 2001 and 2002, state-controlled media called me radical. Now, with most Americans seeing things my way, I'm mainstream. Yet I'm more scared now.
"Iraq," I wrote a week before the 2003 invasion, "will probably be Bush's Waterloo." And so it has been: Exit polls found voters more motivated by opposition to the war than any other issue. "There was general revulsion in the country, particularly among Democrats and independents, against the conduct of the war in
Iraq " said pollster John Zogby. "This was, at the grass roots, a referendum against the war and the president. For Republicans, there was significant disappointment about opportunities lost through enormous budget deficits, threats to civil liberties, a failed social agenda, and the war." Although Democrats failed to nationalize the election, Iraq succeeded: a pitiful seven percent of respondents to the latest Gallup survey still want to "stay the course."
A White House controlled by an unpopular, highly partisan lame duck, a rival party majority without enough votes in Congress to override his veto, and the early start of a highly anticipated 2008 presidential campaign add up to one likely result: gridlock. Bush's legislative and military agendas are dead. But our long national nightmare has just begun.
A Frightening New Security State
We'll be cleaning up Bush's mess long after his scheduled abdication on January 20, 2009. But the trillions of dollars in national debt he has run up and his two losing wars will drain our economy for decades to come. We've provoked a new generation of terrorists. Yet even more damaging and nearly impossible to unravel will be the threats to Americans posed by the neofascist national security apparatus the Bushists will leave behind--unless they use it to remain in power.
Shortly after 9/11 Bush began the first of a long series of power grabs that have transformed him from the leader of a country beholden to its people to an authoritarian despot. He signed a secret executive order granting himself the right to declare anyone in the world, including a U.S. citizen, an "enemy combatant"--without proof--and order him assassinated. Violating federal law and privacy rights, Bush authorized the NSA to listen to our phone calls and read our e-mail.
FBI' and CIA and HomeSec goons "disappeared" thousands of people into a horrible new matrix of concentration camps and secret prisons.
On October 17, 2006 Bush signed the Military Commissions Act. The new law, scarcely mentioned in the media, is breathtaking for the breadth of its attack on basic rights. Under the MCA either the president or the secretary of defense may declare you an "enemy combatant"--as usual, without proof. Under that designation you may be jailed, without the right to an attorney, for the rest of your life. You can even be tortured. Your U.S. citizenship can't protect you. And it's all "legal."
Concentration Camps
In January 2006 HomeSec awarded a $385 million contract to Kellogg, Brown and Root, the subsidiary of Halliburton Co., to build "temporary detention and processing capabilities"--internment camps--"in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."
The question, asks Progressive magazine editor Ruth Conniff, "is what is the government planning to do with mass roundups of people?" After all, Bush and other Republican leaders have spent five years calling Democrats and others who disagree with them traitors and terrorists. Following so much hateful rhetoric, you can't blame liberals for wondering whether they too are about to be declared "enemy combatants." They're not paranoid; they're just paying attention.
And Now, Martial Law
About a week ago some left-wing bloggers began circulating rumors that Bush had secretly signed something called the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" that "allows the president to declare a 'public emergency' and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to 'suppress public disorder.'" I couldn't find the text of the law at the time, formerly H.R. 5122, or a reliable media account, so I decided not to report on it.
I can now confirm the bloggers' account. Bush signed the JWDAA hours after the MCA, in a furtive closed-door White House ceremony. There is, buried deep down in Title V, Subtitle B, Part II, Section 525(a) of the JWDAA, a coup. The Bush Administration has quietly stolen the National Guard away from the states.
Here's the relevant section of Public Law 109-364:
"The [military] Secretary [of the Army, Navy or Air Force] concerned may order a member of a reserve component under the Secretary's jurisdiction to active duty...The training or duty ordered to be performed...may include...support of operations or missions undertaken by the member's unit at the request of the President or Secretary of Defense."
The National Guard, used to maintain order during natural disasters and civil disturbances and the sole vehicle available under U.S. law to enforce a declaration of martial law, has previously been controlled by state governors. They have now been stripped of that control. Thanks to the JWDAA, Bush or Rumsfeld can now deploy National Guardsmen in American cities without obtaining permission from state governors.
Section 526 of the Warner Act goes further still. It states that the "Governor of a State...with the consent of the [military] Secretary concerned, may order a member of the National Guard to perform Active Guard and Reserve duty..." The key word is "may." A governor can no longer deploy the Guard in his or her state without first getting Rumsfeld's permission.
Patrick Leahy (D-VT) sounded the alarm during senatorial debate, but U.S. state-controlled media ignored him. The Warner Act, he said, "includes language that subverts solid, longstanding posse comitatus statutes that limit the military's involvement in law enforcement, thereby making it easier for the President to declare martial law...We fail our Constitution, neglecting the rights of the states, when we make it easier for the president to declare martial law and trample on local and state sovereignty."
Only one governor, Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana, made a fuss over the Warner Act. A spokesman for the National Governors Association requested a wimpy "clarification" concerning what circumstances might prompt Bush to impose martial law. As far as I can determine this column marks the first time the JWDAA has been mentioned in the mainstream media.
Now the dark men who engineered America's post-9/11 police state have watched the public reject their policies. The incoming Democratic majority Congress will be able to hold hearings and launch investigations that could lead to their indictments and removal from office. John Dingell, the liberal incoming chairman of the Commerce Committee did nothing to dissuade GOP fears of "a blizzard of subpoenas": "As the Lord High Executioner said in 'The Mikado,'" Dingell recently joked, "I have a little list."
A year of crisis commences.
As ugly secrets surface, Bushists will turn desperate. Democracy has failed their grand schemes; token resignations like Rumsfeld's come too little, too late. Only tyranny can save their skins. Will the beleaguered neocons led by Cheney and Bush, cornered like rats, unleash their brand-new police state on their political opponents? Or will they tough it out and suck up the fines and prison sentences to come? The next year or two could go either way.
The nightmare is not over.
(Ted Rall is the author of the new book "Silk Road to Ruin: Is Central Asia the New Middle East?," an in-depth prose and graphic novel analysis of America's next big foreign policy challenge.)
Note to idiot:...Rummy is gone.

I promised I'd show you links from truthers to neo-nazis.....and I allways deliver on a promise:

2006-11-04T21:46:00.001-08:00

Well boys and girls....sorry for the distractions...the mootbats were out heavy on nutscape tonight..and I love watching moonbats...

The truthers have been hawking "loose change" as "evidence" of the grand conspiracy by the "globalist bankers" to start an "endless war"....

Loose Change is filled with screen grabs of newspaper headlines that mention things like missing planes and bombs at the World Trade Center... but all of those shots are from the American Free Press...
www.americanfreepress.net/
If you scoll down...on the right you'll see links to...
Tada...christian identity... a well known neo-nazi white surpremisist movement...
www.kingidentity.com/
AFP also links to....
www.truthtellers.org/
Click that link and see what you find...

Thats right..christian white supremisists...again

Nows that just three quick links..took me all of about 5 minutes to find them...
I have hundreds of such links to the "truth" movement...

If you're a truther and reading this....You may not personally be an anti-semite.... (yet)
but you cannot claim that THESE groups arent...

You are standing hip deep in the new american nazi movement...and appearently...you dont even realise it...

No matter which truther site you visit....with in two to three links at most...is a white supremisist group, anarchist group, or some other upstanding civic minded organisation..

And they are gaming nutscape to recruit more followers.

From my observations based on thread participation by truthers since nutscapes launch of the news portal...they have grown exponentially...going from just a few "truthers"...to hundreds of them....and hundreds more converts...

I've seen the statement more than one time from a convert " I didnt believe this 5 years ago....but now I see the truth"

Yeah.....nazi parties arent born in a day....

A sock puppet is born...how truther sites get followers to vote on truther articles:

2006-11-03T22:44:00.000-08:00

Here it is...a smoking gun per se:

http://www.dark-truth.org/index.html
Please take 1 min. to sign up for a Netscape account to vote for "Todays story". Then it will only
take you one click with your mouse to help spread the truth. Todays story to
vote for:
America: From freedom to fascism A must watch - Aaron Russo takes
things way further than Michael Moore and proves that the there is nothing in
the tax code that says you have to pay tax on your labor. Revealing how the
international bankers are the ones who run the world, and how they create their
money from thin air. Amazing and substantiated film about the decline of
political honesty.
Click here to Vote and watch the video.After voting click the
"Visit Site" button to watch the video, or watch it directly here.
By voting you help getting important news like this out to the people as it may
get a good ranking at Netscape's
frontpage.Sign up and vote now, and you will also be able to vote for other
important news that will be featured here.

I dont know how much more plain I can make it...truther sites ask readers the register and to vote for truther stories posted on nutscape....

Truther sites have found nutscape to be fertile ground for recruitment into their movement (and sell more books and DvD's)....

On a positive note:

There has been some positive action on sock puppet voting by one of the navagators when notified....there may yet be hope...

On a negative note:

It has come to my attention that there has been a flurry of bannings on known conservatives...and thus..every post they have ever made...

One can only hope that these bannings are soley for violations of nutscape terms of service ...but without the abilty to review said posts...how can one really know?

I hope this isnt a concerted effort to shade the leanings of posted comments in order to influence casual readers less than a week before the mid term elections...

Basicly..without knowing who banned these members....or what they were banned for....one can only guess....

**update....Lead admin "gets it"

C.K. Block To: Zeitgeist
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have to figure out the best way to broach dealing with this. I'll get back to you after we decided the best way.

There is hope yet...**

Tonights truther sockpuppet show:

2006-11-02T23:23:00.000-08:00

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006/11/03/911-documentary-free-film-called-martial-law-911/#comments

LOL....12 votes in the first 4 minutes....

The lie that just won't seem to die: Jews behind 9/11

2006-11-02T16:12:00.000-08:00

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006/11/02/jews-behind-trade-center-attack/

An excellent primer of how the truther movement parrots the jihadist retoric...yes...and even nazi retoric....no two ways about it...if you're a truther...either you..or one of your allies...are anti-semites....whether YOu think so or not...

*from the article*
The purveyors are an eclectic aggregation that spans the geopolitical spectrum. They include neo-Nazis and other white supremacists in the United States and elsewhere; anti-government zealots; young anti-war activists; Holocaust deniers; Lyndon Larouche supporters; New-Age ideologues; propagandists and journalists within the Arab and Muslim world; and assorted devotees of the early-20th-century forgery, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," which purports to document a Jewish plan to dominate the world.
Efforts to connect the Jews with 9/11, however, are not limited to fringe groups talking with one another. Contributors to Wikipedia, the popular and influential online encyclopedia, have tried repeatedly to insert anti-Jewish 9/11 theories into Wikipedia's pages and represent them as fact or at least plausible versions of reality, according to Berlet.
The insertions - which represent one of countless pieces of potentially suspect information submitted to Wikipedia almost daily - have been promptly excised by the encyclopedia's volunteer editors, says Berlet, himself a Wikipedia editor, "but it requires constant attention."

*end excerpt*

Too bad nutscape wont take a cue from wikpedia and purge their system of truthers...and anything they have posted....

This is required reading class....do your homework...dont be a dunce...

Be well...

Todays hindsight...aka...over react?...who me?...

2006-11-01T19:11:00.000-08:00

I'm never one to delete my words....good or bad they stand for others to judge...and I dont Think it's honest....when your foot has been in your mouth...dont kiss the wife without brushing your teeth...

I do however from time to time , after some reflection.....need to change a position or modify a previous statement...

So here's goes...

*gulp*

I now think it more likely, that the hate that runs rampent on nutscape may be more due to the sheer volume of posts generated...and the ratio of the number admins, to the 70,000 registered users...rather than to an air of permissiveness....or acceptance....and I have conversed with one of the mods and found them to be indeed quite concerned with the content posted and the enforcment of the TOS agreement....

This is not to say that what truthers post there is in any way acceptible...but rather ...that I can now see how such volume of postings allows the truthers to slip in their hooks and recruit...or post hate that goes un noticed....

With only 7 admins and 16 mods...they are simply overwelmed...I'm still suspect of a couple of them....but it IS possible...that in my haste to find evidence...I may have overlooked some of the circumstances...

Gee...now who sounds like a truther?

Not me...a truther would never, once far along the path, stop and re-evaluate their position on anything...no need to reconsider what is a foregone conclusion....

Well...I have had to stop and re-evaluate my position....I do not yet find it completely lacking...nor do I find it concrete...it's more of a "the jury is still out" position...

I'll update the posts below to reflect that....in the intrest of fairness...

The jury is still out...

Der Zeigeist...unbanned...

2006-11-01T16:22:00.000-08:00

http://blog.netscape.com/2006/10/31/eliminating-the-sex-channel-from-netscape/

CK has proven his metal as a lead admin:

6:34PMC.K.
Hi, Zeitgest,One of your comments was evidently quoting one of the people you were trying to out and you had posted it to 3 different threads, so it showed up as spam. I'll unblock your account. You can email me at ck at new netscape dot com.Cheers,C.K

Outted: Navagator Ousama anti-semite? or just indifferent? or over worked?

2006-11-01T00:35:00.000-08:00

Ousama posts this story:

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006/08/05/-robert-fisk-a-terrible-thought-occurs-to-me-that-there-will-be-another-911/#comments

Which then draws the jew haters like flies to cow dung....

And yet...an article posted by this navagator....draws anti-semite comments and outright hatred of jews...is NEVER moderated by the navagator who posted it in the first place....

Almost 3 months later these vile statements have not been removed?

Are we to believe that after posting the story...and seeing comments made to it...that he never went back to see what the comments were?

Not once?

How many times have you posted a thread and never went back to see what people had to say about it?

I'll tell you how many times I have so in 6 years.....ZERO.

You do the math.

** while all of the above is still true...There may yet be one other explaination....it IS possible...now that I grasp the amount of traffic on nutscape...that he in fact never got to review the thread after posting it....again...highly suspect..becuase at that time there were NOT 70,000+ users.....but it's not hard evidence...again...the jury is still out...the title has been modified to reflect this**

Let the outtings begin: Nutscape anchor Karina...truther?

2006-10-31T23:48:00.000-08:00

From the very first truther postings in june we have nutscape anchors posting in agreement with the truthers....and here:

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006/06/23/911-what-really-happened/#comments

Nutscape anchor Karina posts this...including links to truther sites.

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Netscape Anchor Commentary
Karina: Send Message
The video linked is just one example of the many "counternarratives" that have popped up, mostly online, to challenge the US government and mainstream media's official versions of what happened on September 11, 2001. Here are a few links to other sources that dispute the mainstream narrative. Are the dissenters brave, enlightened rebels? Or crackpot conspiracy theorists? You make the call.9/11 Truth: The largest and loudest countermovement, throws conventions, stages demonstrations, and maintains a database of its members' many media appearances. Their key talking points include: The Twin Towers Were Obviously Bombed From Within; Flight 93 Was Obviously Shot Down; The US Government Obviously Paid For These Attacks.Sander Hicks: A gonzo journalist of the highest order, his work on 9/11 counternarratives took him from drinking whisky in the Canadian wilderness with a probable pedophile/former Army spy, to breaking into the 9/11 Commission hearings, only to be called "a whackjob" by panelist Richard Ben-Veniste. His four years worth of aggressive digging are collected in The Big Wedding: 9/11, the Whistle Blowers, and the Cover-Up. He dismisses some popular conspiracy theories (such as, "A Plane Never Hit The Pentagon") whilst steadfastly asserting that the US Government knew about, and had no interest in stopping, the 9/11 attacks. Re-Open 9/11: This group had a series of commercials on cable TV last year, all of which you can watch on their site. It's mostly the same old chestnuts — the Pentagon was never hit by a plane, the Towers were bombed, etc — but they often take it just one step further. Case in point: Proof That Blue Screen Technology Was Used to Fake the 2nd Plane.Charlie Sheen: According to the Wikipedia entry for the Truth Movement, actor Charlie Sheen is on the bandwagon. I found this story, in which he's quoted as saying, "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."

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She needs to be removed...she is no more "impartial" than any other truther....

She has no bussiness moderating a news portal.

My suspicisions where in fact correct...she tries to appear inpartial....while at the same time...feeding truther links to the reader.

Everytime I trust my gut...I am proven correct.

I wouldnt be surprised if she was the one who banned me.

The gut says "quite possible".

Also of note.....the very first "truther" post ever...posted by karina herself.

http://women.netscape.com/story/2006/06/07/911-widows-answer-ann-coulters-criticisms

Can you say busted?.....sure you can...

** In the interest of fairness....I place this under review and withdraw certainty and replace it with "possiblity" .....the jury is still out...and has asked for more evidence...I still find the posting of truther links by a netscape anchor HIGHLY suspicious...I have placed a question mark in the title to relect this**

The nutscape Truther:

2006-10-31T19:56:00.000-08:00

When you see the typical truther...you'll know it.

9 times out of ten...they have no bio...no friends listed, and a recent sign up date.

They often inculde the word "truth" in their log in name....as if they could recognise it...

Also 911, inside job, etc....the ones with more mundane or even creative nicknames are more often then not..."recruits"...

They spam nutscape boards with truther articles that NO self respecting web site allows to be posted...not even Democratic Undergound allows these freaks to post this stuff...and they certainly have no love of Bush....but there it is for all to see..plastered all over nutscape...one wonders what nutscape advertisers would think if I were to notify them of how their adds are being used....I wont be wondering long...

Too bad Nutscape cant police it's own boards to remove these obvious frauds.

Another clue pointing to the thought that at least one or more of the nutscape admins are in fact truthers themselves....add to this the stories that they choose to pin as front page news and you start to see a clear picture for a few of them.

At the very least...a few of them are far left...totally anti-Bush..and quite anti-war...remember...the first "hook" to recruit someone into the truther movement is a hatred for Bush and his administrastion....there are clearly no supporters of Bush amongst the truthers.....how could one possibly be a bush supporter and still believe these conspiracy theories?

Back the the truther nutscape "members"...

I'm certain many of them have multple log in names...a very easy thing to screen for...if only the admins had the will to do so...these ghost members use these multiple logins to game the rating system and push their posted stories to the front page with "votes"...again...very easy to check for...

In fact...I cold busted one of them by merely comparing the use of syntax, vocabulary, common phrases, and use of interchanging caps and puctuations....I didn't need an IP cross check to prove it...

I've been moderating an internet forum for over 6 years.....People can change there nickname...but they cannot change the way they think or how they use language or grammer....when one has seen every trick under the sun to start trouble on a forum with other board users...these inherant traits stick out like a sore thumb..it's almost as good as a finger print....it takes a true master to pull off looking like another person altogether....it's VERY hard to do for the above stated reasons.

Nutscape just today removed it's sex section altogether....The lead admin admits they where "naive" here:

http://blog.netscape.com/

You'll see my responce there as well...

Well brothers and sisters....that isnt the only thing they are naive about...they are being gamed...suckered..flimflamed even... by the truther movement to spread it's message of hate...and gain recruits.

It's really kind of pitiful..these admins are suppossed to be adults...wise in the world....they are entrusted to moderate asite that has almost 100,000 users and generates hundreds of postings per hour....

They are in WAY over their heads....and they dont even know it...there is no way that a dozen or so admins and a couple dozen moderators can properly police these boards.....threats and personal attacks run unchecked...lies and board maniplulation go un-noticed..and they are setting up nutsacpe for a HUGE lawsuit from a member with a valid legal case such as the few recent cases that resulted in 7 figure settlements...it's only a matter of time.

Be well .....

Almost forgot...HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

No tricks....only treats.

The post I got banned for....

2006-10-30T22:58:00.000-08:00

Note to the reader:
If you follow this "truth" trail long enough,it leads to the "globalist bankers" as the root cause,otherwise known as JEWS.
You should give pause,look in the mirror,and ask yourself if you are prepared to be an anti-semite or associate with them....
If you are prepared to go on,be prepared for what will natually follow
You may in fact find yourself one day rifle butting jews or your neighbors into train cars,no,you wont actually be killing them,you'll leave that to others....or claim you didnt know.
But now you do...everything wrong with America comes down to jews and christians according to these people
A path once traveled...cannot be untraveled
I thought truthers where kooks a couple weeks ago
I am now horrified at what I have found....people being conditioned to hate..hate the government..hate the jews..hate christains...to hate ANYONE who dare disagree with them as part of the "grand conspiracy".
History has shown us where that hatred leads...

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So much for free speech...no profantity...no "personal" attacks...NOTHING that violates nutscape terms of service..except an OPINION.

One they appearently cannot deal with, or counter with more retoric.

This is what makes me suspect that one or more of the nutscape Moderators are also truthers.

The typical responce of real facists..silence those you cannot afford to debate or disprove.

They can only hate.

*update*..it appears I may in fact have run afowl of automated spamming flagging and may NOT have been banned for this post in and of itself....I am now unbanned..and have pledged to not cut and paste this message so as to avoid the same situation occuring in the future.

Now...on with the hunt.

Nutscape anti-semites

2006-10-30T22:12:00.000-08:00

This Blog was created in responce to being banned from nutscape for having the balls to show truthers for what they are at the core...anti-semitic, anti-christian,anti-government,ultimately..anti-freedom.

Every belief they hold dove tails perfectly with the jihadist retoric spewed from jew haters.

Everything is a conspiracy...everything is a plot...anyone who disagrees with their ever changing, incoherant, rants are also "part of the problem".

Many "Truther" sites aspouse outright violence, outright anti-semitism, and outright anti-christain statements....packaged as "truth".

One of my new found compatriots, Masked Protester, also hosts a 911 conspiracy debunking blog here.

He does an excellent job of disecting these theories...breaking them down into impossible events...and illustrating why such things cannot be true with hard facts from experts in their fields.

His analysis is very thuorogh and I will leave the debunking of these theories to his expertise.

I am here to concentrate of the motivations of the truther movement, to illustrate the mind set that allows them to think our government killed thousands of american citizens, and how their retoric and underlying root causes parrot jihadist anti-semitism.

I will be posting excerpts and links from anti-semitic postings that are ALLOWED to remain unchecked on the nutscape "news" portal and illustrate how ,by default,this must meet with the approval of those who have been charged with the enforcement of nutscape terms of service rules.

The only thing that unites the truther movement is hate....hatred for George Bush...hatred for our government...hatred for jews and christians...hatred for the evil neo-cons....and in the end....hatred for their fellow man.

They thought they could silence me....they thought wrong... they have only motivated me to show the world the truther movement for what it is...a cult of hate.

I will take you by the hand....keep you safe...and show you the horror of insanity that underlies their thin layer that looks quite normal to the casual observer.

Most of them are harmless enough....people who have genuine questions but never accept genuine answers...the hagners on...and the few among them who are indeed...a clear and present danger.....a crop of lilly whites...ripe for the harvest of the jihadist...ready and willing to carry out acts of domestic terror.

The ground rules:

Comments ARE moderated....I will not tolerate profanity in any form..even cute mispellings....if your post contains it...dont expect to see it here...

Personal attacks on other comments are FORBIDDEN...if you simply cant say something without attacking others....dont expect to see it here...

Conspiracies?...dont bother....save it for nutscape....you seem to be welcome to spew your hate there....so stay there....

I will accept news stories concerning the truther movement for publishing providing they prove to be genuine.

To the truthers...be warned....you have awakened the Zeitgeist....and I will awaken others.

I am the spirit of time...and I come for you.